can you do a charge back through paypal for gold?

[harleystcool]

I sold my gold to a person in china that had alot of postive threads on a forum to avoid blizz tax and i'm worried that if i keep selling, they'd wait 1 day before the paypal refund policy and do a charge back for all the money they sent me. I've read that you can't do charge backs through virtual items, anyone have any experience in this?

 

[PKSays]

I sold my gold to a person in china that had alot of postive threads on a forum to avoid blizz tax and i'm worried that if i keep selling, they'd wait 1 day before the paypal refund policy and do a charge back for all the money they sent me. I've read that you can't do charge backs through virtual items, anyone have any experience in this?

lol man i've seen a bunch of your threads, you're one of the most paranoid guys on here.

i've done chargebacks through paypal, it's a long process and you have to prove you sent them a physical copy.

 

[zippysticks]

Paypal stands for "Fuck Seller", they will screw you so bad, go with moneybooker. No chargebacks allowed I believe.

 

[lolwatpear]

Yes they have the ability to charge back whether they gifted it or not. If the paypal account has been hacked, the original owner can get all their money back. Or, if they purchased your gold using a credit card on paypal, they can call up their CC company and decline the payment. Paypal will still refund the money, gift or not. I've been chargedback 2-3 times after being gifted the money and there's nothing you can do. You shouldn't really worry about it though if they have good feedback. There's little money to be made scamming people like that.

 

[harleystcool]

lol man i've seen a bunch of your threads, you're one of the most paranoid guys on here.

i've done chargebacks through paypal, it's a long process and you have to prove you sent them a physical copy.

yeah lol thanks, ask and you shall receive hey?

thanks guys, yeah she (prob a guy posing as a girl to give you the hope that maybe one day you'd travel to china and bang a asian chick ha) has been selling since may of 2012, so i guess it wouldn't be a good idea to scam if she wants business

 

[RayrayB]

You can charge back anything on paypal. All they have to say it 'oh my account was hacked' or whatever other sob story. If someone is planning to run that con they will use a ***** when they buy the gold and use other methods to make the transaction look suspicious. Paypal will usually side with the buyer unless you have really good documentation, which is harder to do with digital items.

Take the risk, or use blizzards secure system that they offer. It's up to you. Do you think that 15% or more of the people you sell to will charge back?

 

[harleystcool]

what i'm scared of is if through the months i sell thousands of dollars (dreaming big here lol) and right before the guy charges back everything he sent me the past 2 months (paypal has a 45 day expiry date right?) I was thinking of finding 4 contacts, then selling them to them each week, then if one pulls a fast one they only get 2 weeks worth of my fat stacks, right?

 

[Elmo]

First, someone successfully faking and fooling PayPal that they were hacked is the most unlikely thing to happen - people that attempt this fail almost every time and even the successful ones could only do it once before PayPal would notice what they are doing.

The worst thing to worry about is if someone paid you with a Credit or Debit card and they call to the credit card company/bank for a charge back - which in most cases they win BUT --- unless you have a business account PayPal does not allow any user to send you funds with a Credit or Debit card (usually) - and I say this because recently a lot of things has changed and they implemented some sort of security that sometimes allows people to do this, but for the most part doesn't.

The least of your worry's is if they simply try to open a dispute in PayPal - all you have to say is the goods sold were "non tangible" - PayPal clearly states in the TOS that they do NOT cover charge backs for non tangible items and the buyer will always lose. I dealt with a lot of this when I was in the web hosting biz. I know all the stupid tricks now - it has been a painful process and you'll somewhat hate PayPal, but they are getting better with these systems and loops they make people go through.

The biggest worry is if the user doesn't actually own the account - but even in some cases you can still keep the funds because even a person who really was hacked will lose their money on PayPal's error/lack of information/etc.

 

[Master_Cirroji]

yeah lol thanks, ask and you shall receive hey?

thanks guys, yeah she (prob a guy posing as a girl to give you the hope that maybe one day you'd travel to china and bang a asian chick ha) has been selling since may of 2012, so i guess it wouldn't be a good idea to scam if she wants business

mann your flirting with the devil. chargebacks are the least of your concern. your most likely dealing with a person who gives less than 1% of a shit about getting banned/public rep/anything that your going to hold as holy.

chinese gold farmers are like ferengi. they will do business with you, and honestly if your keen and smart. but in less than a heartbeat they will take you down, or fuck you in the ass for a easy cent or two