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Huge bans just now 20/7

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Also banned belgathors sarkoth not 24/7 but fairly frequently 18hours a day or so.
 
They are watching sark and ZK guys, any high traffic area for that matter. They stated in their game limits forum post that they were testing it right? which states that they have log catchers in place that logg how many times u create a game, for how long, and possibly more, Obviously they log this otherwise how else does the gamelimits track who to place limit on? Duhhh. so if they said they are testing whom did they test on? with the increased amount of banns it would seem suspect if it wasnt the botters them selfs? as this game limit is designed for them?

Just my thoughts. If you dont want your account banned after 2+ hours of farming i suggest not touching sark or leveling up in ZK. I suggest doing something different and rotating that.
 
Have any of devs thought that they might just ban for EXACTLY SAME CREATE NEW GAME & SELL/SALVAGE ITEMS DELAY ? No human can click with exactly same speed at buttons hundreds of time in a row, only bot can. I think that is the only explanation of those 15 minutes to 4 hours bans.
 
Eisenberg said:
Have any of devs thought that they might just ban for EXACTLY SAME CREATE NEW GAME & SELL/SALVAGE ITEMS DELAY ? No human can click with exactly same speed at buttons hundreds of time in a row, only bot can. I think that is the only explanation of those 15 minutes to 4 hours bans.
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Actually Hawker did mention that.
 
DTrick said:
They are watching sark and ZK guys, any high traffic area for that matter. They stated in their game limits forum post that they were testing it right? which states that they have log catchers in place that logg how many times u create a game, for how long, and possibly more, Obviously they log this otherwise how else does the gamelimits track who to place limit on? Duhhh. so if they said they are testing whom did they test on? with the increased amount of banns it would seem suspect if it wasnt the botters them selfs? as this game limit is designed for them?

Just my thoughts. If you dont want your account banned after 2+ hours of farming i suggest not touching sark or leveling up in ZK. I suggest doing something different and rotating that.
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As you say, they do it since few years already with WOW, they track gathering, npc slays, zones, online times, ah, bank.

they run analyzing tools and create patterns, they did it in wow, and they do it in diablo 3

the difference is, that as it was something new with wow and they needed to work out the patterns ( there where also nonbotters banned ), and wow servers include few thousand players in one big zone, now 3 years later they have worked it out.

And its so much easier on diablo, where the world is just an one man instance. they log everything, use the pattern and you are gone.

Random Profiles, Profile Loops, Random Dungeons and pauses in between will help, as it always helped in WOW

I can not believe that ppl think it is common to bot 24/7 and then wounder why they got banned. No one bots 24/7, botting is there to allow you to skip the boring part of the game, and even if the game was as whole a boring part, why would you bot 24/7

Since 2009 i am telling ppl that more than 8 hours a day is risky, i am the best example for that, back in the days i botted for wow gold, i lost hundreds of accounts, it still was worth it, but i was prety aware of what i risked.

What i see here, even from users from old days, they expect the bots to run 24/7 and can not think of that blizzard might do analytics and heuristics serverside and profile botting, then react and ban on patterns.

Screaming, "banwave banwave" does help no one. Thinking of solutions how to use this experience is the way. And the solutions are easy:

Switch Profiles, do pauses, all of you that bot for weeks 16-24/7 do you really think that this can not be seen ? The bot must not be detected to create a pattern of your D3 usage.

And probably wait a few days and let us do few new and longer profiles, that variegate your usage pattern and prevent you from being banned.

I also am nuot sure why someone would need 4,6,10,12 accounts for just private usage, that sounds like professional farming. But the man behind does not look like he is interested into professional and rational farming, just for fastest RMAH profits.

So far from me, in 8 hours i will look in the comments here, and then probably have more experience due to the posts left for me here.
 
Bossland said:
As you say, they do it since few years already with WOW, they track gathering, npc slays, zones, online times, ah, bank.

they run analyzing tools and create patterns, they did it in wow, and they do it in diablo 3

the difference is, that as it was something new with wow and they needed to work out the patterns ( there where also nonbotters banned ), and wow servers include few thousand players in one big zone, now 3 years later they have worked it out.

And its so much easier on diablo, where the world is just an one man instance. they log everything, use the pattern and you are gone.

Random Profiles, Profile Loops, Random Dungeons and pauses in between will help, as it always helped in WOW

I can not believe that ppl think it is common to bot 24/7 and then wounder why they got banned. No one bots 24/7, botting is there to allow you to skip the boring part of the game, and even if the game was as whole a boring part, why would you bot 24/7

Since 2009 i am telling ppl that more than 8 hours a day is risky, i am the best example for that, back in the days i botted for wow gold, i lost hundreds of accounts, it still was worth it, but i was prety aware of what i risked.

What i see here, even from users from old days, they expect the bots to run 24/7 and can not think of that blizzard might do analytics and heuristics serverside and profile botting, then react and ban on patterns.

Screaming, "banwave banwave" does help no one. Thinking of solutions how to use this experience is the way. And the solutions are easy:

Switch Profiles, do pauses, all of you that bot for weeks 16-24/7 do you really think that this can not be seen ? The bot must not be detected to create a pattern of your D3 usage.

And probably wait a few days and let us do few new and longer profiles, that variegate your usage pattern and prevent you from being banned.

I also am nuot sure why someone would need 4,6,10,12 accounts for just private usage, that sounds like professional farming. But the man behind does not look like he is interested into professional and rational farming, just for fastest RMAH profits.

So far from me, in 8 hours i will look in the comments here, and then probably have more experience due to the posts left for me here.
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Nice post boss, always enjoy your experienced insight on things.

I must ask though, there are people getting banned within hours of creating a new account, if this is true, what are your thoughts on this?
 
Bossland said:
As you say, they do it since few years already with WOW, they track gathering, npc slays, zones, online times, ah, bank.

they run analyzing tools and create patterns, they did it in wow, and they do it in diablo 3

the difference is, that as it was something new with wow and they needed to work out the patterns ( there where also nonbotters banned ), and wow servers include few thousand players in one big zone, now 3 years later they have worked it out.

And its so much easier on diablo, where the world is just an one man instance. they log everything, use the pattern and you are gone.

Random Profiles, Profile Loops, Random Dungeons and pauses in between will help, as it always helped in WOW

I can not believe that ppl think it is common to bot 24/7 and then wounder why they got banned. No one bots 24/7, botting is there to allow you to skip the boring part of the game, and even if the game was as whole a boring part, why would you bot 24/7

Since 2009 i am telling ppl that more than 8 hours a day is risky, i am the best example for that, back in the days i botted for wow gold, i lost hundreds of accounts, it still was worth it, but i was prety aware of what i risked.

What i see here, even from users from old days, they expect the bots to run 24/7 and can not think of that blizzard might do analytics and heuristics serverside and profile botting, then react and ban on patterns.

Screaming, "banwave banwave" does help no one. Thinking of solutions how to use this experience is the way. And the solutions are easy:

Switch Profiles, do pauses, all of you that bot for weeks 16-24/7 do you really think that this can not be seen ? The bot must not be detected to create a pattern of your D3 usage.

And probably wait a few days and let us do few new and longer profiles, that variegate your usage pattern and prevent you from being banned.

I also am nuot sure why someone would need 4,6,10,12 accounts for just private usage, that sounds like professional farming. But the man behind does not look like he is interested into professional and rational farming, just for fastest RMAH profits.

So far from me, in 8 hours i will look in the comments here, and then probably have more experience due to the posts left for me here.
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Thanks for taking the time to post this Bossland.

You mention that we should wait a few days for you to do a few new and longer profiles, do you care to elaborate on this part? What do you have in mind? What can we hope/expect for?

I myself was hit in the banwave, and I'm not sure whether or not i will re-purchase the game. So far I've borrowed a friend's game and I'm now levelling his DH(by bot) to 60. I deeply hope that by the time i reach level 60, some more "official" profiles will be available.

Kind regards
 
As hawker said, we are trying to get our new accounts banned now, will update you if we succeed.
 
"So you need an admin to tell you if the bot is detected ?

No its not, its your greedy 100 runs one after other on Sarkoth that got you banned."

Bossland, Why must you call the people who supported you and bought your product greedy? It's insulting. I lost my account botting Sarkoth about 12 hours a day. I don't know much about botting so I thought that I was being conservative by not running it all the time. What you say is probably true, but I don't understand why you can't explain that without insulting us.
 
Ty4651 said:
"So you need an admin to tell you if the bot is detected ?

No its not, its your greedy 100 runs one after other on Sarkoth that got you banned."

Bossland, Why must you call the people who supported you and bought your product greedy? It's insulting. I lost my account botting Sarkoth about 12 hours a day. I don't know much about botting so I thought that I was being conservative by not running it all the time. What you say is probably true, but I don't understand why you can't explain that without insulting us.
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Can't believe you have the nerv to post this - if you read through the 16 pages you see people raging at him, aswell as throwing tons of insult. The moment he calls your greed, he is insulting you.. Jeez.

You ARE greedy, we all are - and we all know the risk, and we end up getting banned.

Now stop wasting the devs time here with posts like that, and let them actually do their job to help our asses.
 
it doesnt take a genius to see to stop botting sarkoth or leveling profiles.. ive noticed this a month ago.... no bans yet on my 12 accounts all botting different profiles that are not sarkoth, not repetitive, not leveling profiles. stop being ignorant kids thinking i ll get lucky and get away with botting sarkoth.. aint gonna happen
 
No offense taken here. Heck yea I'm greedy. My close to 1k $ I made off a 90$ investment game+bot, yet I still want more, yup greedy.
 
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