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They ABSOLUTELY nerfed Sarkoth (proof)

OMG OMG I've flipped a coin 100 times and I got 70% tails, the world is ending like Maya said!
 
I think some plugins, if you simply stop and start DemonBuddy (rather than fully close/exit the DB program and restart it), something is still hooked on to one of the game-counters, and so every "not found" count can be counted 2, 3, 4+ times per run (depending how many times you stop/start). So if you find cellar, you are at 100% found. Then if you fail to find it on your 2nd run, it adds two to the fail count - suddenly you are only at 33% found instead of 50% found.

I think there needs to be a sticky Sarkoth thread. Merge all reported "nerf" threads into that one thread. Have the first post of that sticky list a few things - ie "don't post about nerf unless you've tested at least 100 runs" "Exit and restart DB completely before measuring, without and stop-starts of the bot" "Make sure your plugins, routines, profiles are all up-to-date and check any plguin threads of the plugins you use for any known errors with the latest DB version" etc. etc. :P
 
[11:13:16.551 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 588/1128 games!
[11:13:16.551 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] This Run took: 9s
[11:13:16.551 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] The average fail run is: 13s
[11:13:16.552 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Money made this run: 0
[11:13:16.554 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Money made in total: 3876854

i'm only on abt 300k GPH
 
Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1 was also counting runs twice on my barb a couple of days ago, so if that's happening to you, you're actually around 123/274, which is normal...
 
Still ~50%

Please refrain from generalizing personal experiences.
 
turing said:
Ooh, So quick with the witty insults. Good job calling him the idiot and referencing "rng".

OP posted 123/547 (22.49%) games. Presuming that from everyone else that the actual rate is 50%, the standard deviation for that expected number of attempts would be sqrt(547*.25) which is 11.69. If his attempts were verifiably correct attempts, that would give us a sigma of 12.87.

LHC Scientists would argue that 5 sigma (1 / 1,744,278) is enough proof to have found the Higgs Boson. 7 sigma according to wikipedia is 1 / 390,682,215,445. Is there a point finding out what 12.87 sigma is?

More than likely, the guy has some issue with his profile or plugin or the bot counting it incorrectly or not checking correctly. I had that issue. I had a weirdness with d3.exe where 3 bots wouldn't check and just instantly log out when game started, but it would work once in a while and my % was also around 25% because of it. I didn't bother determining what made it go into a loop and what didn't as a quick reboot fixed it.

OP: Obviously, it's working for everyone else. I'd suggest actually watching your bot to see what it is doing wrong.








The point here is that you're an idiot. RNG RNG RNG RNG BANANA PHONE
Click to expand...

LOL

Troll Successful
 
DH:
[20:33:33.565 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 427/879 games!
[20:33:33.565 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] This Run took: 27s
[20:33:33.565 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] The average cellar run is: 152s
[20:33:33.566 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Money made this run: 4780
[20:33:33.566 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Money made in total: 2362085

Wiz:
[20:33:58.059 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 466/917 games!
[20:33:58.059 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] This Run took: 9s
[20:33:58.059 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] The average fail run is: 10s
[20:33:58.060 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Money made this run: 0
[20:33:58.061 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Money made in total: 2774466
 
I have found that sometimes logging out and logging back in gets me better RNG for cellar spawns. I usually run about 48% after 100 runs and sit around that for the next 600, but sometimes I will notice it take a sudden nose dive..... 20-30 runs in a row with NOTHING spawning ( drop to 35-40% spawn rate). Log out, log in (both DB and D3) and it gets back up to around 50% again. Maybe I am just imagining it.....
 
Not nerfed. get off the new version of DB or look at your plugins.

I have 6 bots running .155 and they are as follows.

[21:43:30.446 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 34/78 games!
[21:43:04.086 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 655/1385 games!
[21:43:51.717 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 672/1403 games!
[21:43:46.523 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 654/1286 games!
[21:43:39.564 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 668/1394 games!
[21:44:14.397 N] [Icool's Sarkoth farm helper v0.1] Cellars found in 671/1365 games!

You're wrong.
 
You could have pathing issues and your leaving before finding the celler,
 
Thats called RNG...
Do it on a 10k games tryout and comeback with your maths
 
You guys need to say what server your on... Don't think it is nerfed at all but its pretty damn useless posting your stats when you don't mention server since one always gets hit before the other.
 
I was having these issues as well until I bought an upgraded RNG on the AH. >.<
 
I've noticed the newest version as of this morning was having a lot of trouble correctly firing the logic for detecting the cellar. sometimes it would exit the game like there wasn't a cellar when there actually was. Other times, the oppositewould happen - it would search for a cellar, even though it was closed - it was really weird.
 
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