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DB is so far behind competitors

carguy said:
So, its far behind other competitor bots...that get you banned. right, ok.

Dumbfuck. It's been out a day.
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Been out a day? been in development for weeks - much longer then competitors.
 
ciano1 said:
Been out a day? been in development for weeks - much longer then competitors.
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I'm quite sure every other big bot was in development during the beta. I don't know when DB started development, but I'm quite sure it was later.
 
The other BOT forums are littered with BAN complaints lmao

100% of 0 is still 0.
 
RD808 said:
The other BOT forums are littered with BAN complaints lmao

100% of 0 is still 0.
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There's three "big" bots. Only one got banhammered. The worse of the three.
The other working bot is still LIGHTYEARS ahead.
 
ciano1 said:
First id like to say I love honorbuddy and have used it for years, but Im just very unsatisfied with demonbuddy.
Im not having a go at the devs but rather the product they have created. Please dont take this personally.
Demonbuddy is the least efficient d3 bot that I have tryed to date, by a long shot. The key to farming in D3 is efficiency, this is what makes the difference of 100 kph -> 500 kph.
DB falls short in:

Movement is sluggish, jumpy, staggered and horrible to look at really. Spends most his time backtracking for no apparent reason.
Target selection is a mess, my char is switching targets like crazy and spends most his time running around like a headless chicken.
Combat is painfully slow and generally messed up. My barb like to attack a mob, run back 10 feet only to run back to attack the mobs again.
Loading Times waypoints load far too slow, too much time is wasted standing still.
Path Finding You could argue that this comes down to the profile but even with a basic profile with basic waypoints my bot likes to run into dead ends and has alot of trouble staying on path.

If you haven't tryed other D3 bots your most likely satisfied with demonbuddy because you havent seen how much more efficient competitors are. However at the moment DB is so far behind competitors its shocking, considering how long they have been developing it in comparison to competitors. One competitor in particular had a bot released in the first week of diablo 3 and it was 10x efficient as demonbuddy.

Id like to add that I will be waiting for Demonbuddy to catch up, because I know it eventually. The safety factor it provides is priceless.
That being said it has huge improvements to make and it was not in a state to be released.
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You should try the new version, just read posts about ppl getting x3 the gold per hour they had earlier with the improvements.
 
Toney001 said:
There's three "big" bots. Only one got banhammered. The worse of the three.
The other working bot is still LIGHTYEARS ahead.
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Those three are including Demonbuddy and the other one you speak of isn't supported anymore and cannot be purchased...
 
see this as windows, it gets released people complain and post the bugs, others sit therer and do nothing. while devs work there asses off to make it better by the reports you shall receive proper updates to enjoy faster combat movement etc etc, so instead of being unsatisfied, be the guy that helps out to make it the bot you like it to be by posting bugs of all kinds of things you encounter.
 
panyama said:
see this as windows, it gets released people complain and post the bugs, others sit therer and do nothing. while devs work there asses off to make it better by the reports you shall receive proper updates to enjoy faster combat movement etc etc, so instead of being unsatisfied, be the guy that helps out to make it the bot you like it to be by posting bugs of all kinds of things you encounter.
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Well said. Also, I don't buy buddy software for top notch RELEASE candidates--I buy them because at :01 I ask for help and :02 a developer helps me. Not to mention, like I said before, most of the other "better" BOTs are getting people banned and/or not supported anymore.

Do you want DWayne Wade now or Michael Jordan as a teenager?
 
RD808 said:
Those three are including Demonbuddy and the other one you speak of isn't supported anymore and cannot be purchased...
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What makes you think this way? Last week the site was down for a couple hours and lots of people went crazy with paypal chargebacks. The bot was up, patched and working in the morning.

That said, I wouldn't care, and it wouldn't surprise me. I was the first to say here that VS would disappear the second he got served with a C&D.
In any case, if I can't use it, nobody else can. I'd be ok if "the other bot" was discontinued.

BUT, superior product is superior. I just wanted to point that out, because it's only fair. I have no doubt that in the end, DB will be the last one standing.
 
Toney001 said:
What makes you think this way? Last week the site was down for a couple hours and lots of people went crazy with paypal chargebacks. The bot was up, patched and working in the morning.

That said, I wouldn't care, and it wouldn't surprise me. I was the first to say here that VS would disappear the second he got served with a C&D.
In any case, if I can't use it, nobody else can. I'd be ok if "the other bot" was discontinued.

BUT, superior product is superior. I just wanted to point that out, because it's only fair. I have no doubt that in the end, DB will be the last one standing.
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Maybe because their Facebook is donw,their Twitter is down,their shop is down
and there are almost no replies on their site...

didnt check them tho,is what a friend just told me
 
Maybe because their Facebook is donw,their Twitter is down,their shop is down
and there are almost no replies on their site...

didnt check them tho,is what a friend just told me
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The facebook wasn't made by them and they had no knowledge of it existing, the twitter was taken down before site went down since no one was using it, the website went down a couple hours after they announced it would be going down. They had also said they were being repeatedly DDOSed before that. They emailed people back too on support within 2 hours, and in a couple more they had a msg on website saying what happened. Also that group didn't experience a ban wave... Just clearing up rumors...
DB will be better than competitors not due to just detection but because the code/profiles just seems to allow for more complicated, efficient, and intelligent botting.
 
Tony said:
Maybe because their Facebook is donw,their Twitter is down,their shop is down
and there are almost no replies on their site...

didnt check them tho,is what a friend just told me
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Their twitter is still there. Dunno about FB.
Payments have been down since the idiots spam chargedback him last week. Maybe that's the cause.

Like I said, he'll be gone eventually. I know only you will stand up to blizzard.
But I'm a fair guy.

I wouldn't like it either if someone was trashing HB (as in the real HB, not Hellbuddy) for no reason other than fanboyism.
Same thing here. Just trashing it for the sake of trashing it, when people haven't even tried it, is not fair. That's all.

I actually hope it closes down, so I don't feel forced to use it due to it's superior GPH output.
I can't wait to have free time and get my hands into CC/profile making with DB :).
 
zyancow said:
The facebook wasn't made by them and they had no knowledge of it existing, the twitter was taken down before site went down since no one was using it, the website went down a couple hours after they announced it would be going down. They had also said they were being repeatedly DDOSed before that. They emailed people back too on support within 2 hours, and in a couple more they had a msg on website saying what happened. Also that group didn't experience a ban wave... Just clearing up rumors...
DB will be better than competitors not due to just detection but because the code/profiles just seems to allow for more complicated, efficient, and intelligent botting.
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time will show us since my friend got some info from the inside,anyways

yes i agree,DB will be better
 
@OP: thanks for the sorta bug reports. Movement has gotten much better in the last release (as people have said, users are reporting a tripling in GPH with the new build [US only for right now due to the patch]). I'm personally working on the targeting issues as we speak, (well, technically I'm working on monster affix tables, such a pain :()

We are moving the navigation stuff to a new server in the next day or two (likely tonight) to alleviate some of the lag there. We weren't expecting as many concurrent users as we have, so our little box isn't doing so well handling all the requests.

TL;DR

1) Mostly fixed
2) Being fixed
3) Probably related to #2
4) Being fixed as soon as we move the server
5) Can you explain?
 
Hey Apoc, I've never had the request problem with HB. Do you guys have THAT much more DB users than HB, or was that just on a smaller server?
Just curious.
 
Doesn't DB have a 7 day refund policy? If you want to leave why not just leave?
Obviosuly you'll probably come back 6 months down the track when all other bot devs have been scared off and have had several accounts banned and be forced to pay 20 dollars/month for your buddy key, but yeah, the door is open.
 
Toney001 said:
Hey Apoc, I've never had the request problem with HB. Do you guys have THAT much more DB users than HB, or was that just on a smaller server?
Just curious.
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HB doesnt use the pathing system that DB and BuddyWing use. With HB, all mesh files were stored client side so pathing calculations were done on the client computer. With DB/BW, all navigation requests are sent to a remote server, which sends back the calculated path to follow. So when the server has issues, everyone using the bot has issues.
 
Ok I will completely agree that 1 week was way to long, I just meant giving an example. However I can't even see the real-money AH because I bought it digitally and apparently we have to wait 3 days and I can't even see items.

I retract all statements. The patch today is orgasmic. Good job buddy team, it almost increased it by another half of the GPH from before, very impressive
 
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