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What max lvl GR Yours bot do?

GR80
LoN Witch Doctor
Min trash size: 7
trash cluster radius: 15
path around AoE: OFF
Attempt to avoid AoE: ON
Avoid AoE out of combat: OFF (annoying back and forth movement near molten/arcane)
Kite to avoid death on low HP: ON
Attack mobs in AoE: ON
Attack mobs in AoE: ON
avoid fire chains: OFF
attack mobs when blocked: ON

Not sure if it's beneficial for me to ignore elite packs now that I'm struggling to finish the rift on time, I'll have to test it tomorrow.
 
Hi,
i got a 1200paragon LON Crusader, all Ancient and some pretty good rolls,
but i always fail on grifts > 79 ( got one 79 at 13 minutes ...)

Would be glad about some additional information on those "only trash" runs:

- weapon? doombringer i suppose? i do not have a good swiftmount (with vita + str + cdr)
- set "wait for convention of elements" ?
- set "ignore progression globes" to on (imo does not matter since dont kill elites) ?
- diamonds in sockets, correct?
- gems : boyarski + esoteric alteration + trapped?
- does this build work without " Pauldrons of the Skeleton King" shoulders beyond 80?

Thanks :P
 
bex said:
Hi,
i got a 1200paragon LON Crusader, all Ancient and some pretty good rolls,
but i always fail on grifts > 79 ( got one 79 at 13 minutes ...)

Would be glad about some additional information on those "only trash" runs:

- weapon? doombringer i suppose? i do not have a good swiftmount (with vita + str + cdr)
- set "wait for convention of elements" ?
- set "ignore progression globes" to on (imo does not matter since dont kill elites) ?
- diamonds in sockets, correct?
- gems : boyarski + esoteric alteration + trapped?
- does this build work without " Pauldrons of the Skeleton King" shoulders beyond 80?

Thanks :P
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Doombringer is alright instead of Swiftmount, but swiftmount is def very helpful. Long as you have illusionary boots its fine w/e you have really.

Yes wait for convention and must have 61%+ cdr.

Don't check ignore progression Globes. If you kill elites you want those for doing higher rifts for sure. Blues packs are totally worth, its just yellows that suck and aren't worth killing.

Diamonds yes.

Yes those 3 legendary gems.

Pauldrons of Skele King are worthless and not best. They have a very low chance to "save" your life. Homing pads for real play and for bot play literally w/e shoulders you can get with correct stats and high thorns is better.
 
hi my friend.i m lvl 2100 and usually i m botting 78 clear in 9-10min max.
i try with condemn in 78 and was 9 min to clear.but i die like 3-4 times.
with no condemn i die like 2-3 time per 10 runs.
my gems are all 96+
and should i use diamonds on gear instaid of reds?
can you share with me the trinity settings for condemn range?
sorry for my bad english
 
jbotwww said:
More efficient is actually running the longer rifts. Unless you do the T10/GR71ish combo runs otherwise running the longer GRs is better because less T10.
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actually what i said is more efficient.. dying in a gr80 will yield less exp and more t10 to build stacks of exp pools back up
 
jbotwww said:
Doombringer is alright instead of Swiftmount, but swiftmount is def very helpful. Long as you have illusionary boots its fine w/e you have really.

Yes wait for convention and must have 61%+ cdr.

Don't check ignore progression Globes. If you kill elites you want those for doing higher rifts for sure. Blues packs are totally worth, its just yellows that suck and aren't worth killing.

Diamonds yes.

Yes those 3 legendary gems.

Pauldrons of Skele King are worthless and not best. They have a very low chance to "save" your life. Homing pads for real play and for bot play literally w/e shoulders you can get with correct stats and high thorns is better.
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okay thx

no chance for me though .... does not work beyond 78 ... i have no idea why

230k thorns, 490 mio screen toughness, 20k str

so i have to stick to max 76 and no chance to get my gems beyond 80 :(

how do ppl get 85 or so ? o.O
 
currently running the cookie cutter monk/wiz/wd/barb 4 man team on high 80s. Its going great, but I was wondering how you guys farm rift keys. Do you just let adventurer run a normal rift when you run out or do you switch their gear for speed farming and run just normal for awhile?

Thanks
 
bex said:
okay thx

no chance for me though .... does not work beyond 78 ... i have no idea why

230k thorns, 490 mio screen toughness, 20k str

so i have to stick to max 76 and no chance to get my gems beyond 80 :(

how do ppl get 85 or so ? o.O
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Ya your thorns is so low. I have 320k with a level 100 thorns gem(it was like 301k with a 90 or so).

Thorns is massive since there is so many multipliers that effect it. Even 10k thorns is a lot of damage.
 
BlackDahlia said:
currently running the cookie cutter monk/wiz/wd/barb 4 man team on high 80s. Its going great, but I was wondering how you guys farm rift keys. Do you just let adventurer run a normal rift when you run out or do you switch their gear for speed farming and run just normal for awhile?

Thanks
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Solo rifts on all of them. I atm actually have my monk run with my sader(instead of wiz for t10) and barb and wd solo. I can get like 200 keys in a nights sleep on each then run GRs for 2 days or a little more. I run 94s atm on them so it takes quite a while to use all the keys.

Trinity and monk T10s are bad at least with dashing strike. So its too slow without it so I run with my sader on follow and both run massive movespeed.

Redemption said:
actually what i said is more efficient.. dying in a gr80 will yield less exp and more t10 to build stacks of exp pools back up
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Thats what I said?!?!?!?!?!? I said its more efficient to run higher rifts that take longer UNLESS you do the T10/GR 71 combo which is the best. I was getting around 245b an hour solo doing T10/GR 71s.
 
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jbotwww said:
Ya your thorns is so low. I have 320k with a level 100 thorns gem(it was like 301k with a 90 or so).

Thorns is massive since there is so many multipliers that effect it. Even 10k thorns is a lot of damage.
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Using the D3Planner from the 4p GRift Guide: http://www.d3planner.com/596585260

If you simply make changes to the level of the Boyarsky's Chip Gem in the ring, you can see the changes on the Thorns of the main screen and the subsequent differences in the DPS on the Skills tab.



Boyarsky's Chip Impact
(How Thorns scale your damage)​
[TABLE="width: 800, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]No Chip[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Level 0 Chip[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Level 50 Chip[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Level 91 Chip[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Level 100 Chip[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]Chip Bonus - Added Thorns[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16,000[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]56,000[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]88,800[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]96,000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Base Thorns [on Sheet][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]196,000[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]220,000[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]280,000[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]330,000[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]340,000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Steed Charge Damage[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]4.1 Billion[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]4.6 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]5.9 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]7.0 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]7.2 B[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]. . .Steed Charge on CoE Rotation[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12.3 Billion[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14.0 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]17.8 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]21.0 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]21.7 B[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bombardment Damage[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]19 Billion[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]21.6 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]27.5 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]32.3 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]33.3 B[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]. . .Bombardment on CoE Rotation[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]57 Billion[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]64.8 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]82.5 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]96.9 B[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]100.1 B[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

​

Remember that your DPS is based primarily on Bombardment from the skill on your bar as well as your belt. Steed charge is the secondary damage. Consecration does about 20% of the damage of Steed Charge.

This is why Boyarsky's Chip makes the LoN Bombardment build possible. It adds over 50% more damage on CoE rotation at level 100.

If you include Hexing Pants into the calculation, Bombardmnet on CoE rotation does about 121.8 billion damage with a level 100 Chip.


At level 91, the Chip is 10,000 sheet Thorns less than a level 100 Chip. The differences aren't as pronounced as I thought they would be, but look at the overall damage scaling, every bit eventually matters!
 
Ya exactly. Every item even a 3500 thorns item you don't have the someone else has is just so much damage overall. Esp when you factor in someones Str vs anothers. I have 27k Str and 320k thorns atm on my sader(granted that is with str gems its more like 25k with all res gems). The difference in overall output is so massive to someone with 240k and probably like 20k str or maybe a tad more.
 
Hey all,

So, I guess i'll be boring as everybody, but just need to know.
Here my current build.
http://www.d3planner.com/725675883

I know I didn't got the right pants, and I need ancient hellfire.
Weapon may be better, but didn't found any.

I've spend a lots of time (and tons of BS) trying to get better stats / stuffs, nothing really better.
Still doing GR66 / 67, can 70 but in about 14/15min, ofter too late.

So is it really because of my weapon & shield, or something else?
( Checked LoN Solo Guid + 4p Guid, can't really go higher)

Any advices are welcome
 
Alfonse1er said:
Hey all,

So, I guess i'll be boring as everybody, but just need to know.
Here my current build.
http://www.d3planner.com/725675883

I know I didn't got the right pants, and I need ancient hellfire.
Weapon may be better, but didn't found any.

I've spend a lots of time (and tons of BS) trying to get better stats / stuffs, nothing really better.
Still doing GR66 / 67, can 70 but in about 14/15min, ofter too late.

So is it really because of my weapon & shield, or something else?
( Checked LoN Solo Guid + 4p Guid, can't really go higher)

Any advices are welcome
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Basically you just need to get Bombard and Physical and AoE on w/e items you can as well as thorns it just takes time. Obviously cube the highest gems on every item you should be overloaded with cubable gems anyway if you bot/play 24/7. Your hexing pants are perfectly fine... sure you are missing 1 socket but otherwise they are perfect. Some things important to look on some items:

650 Str is not better than getting 20% physical on your bracers. You really should get a new pair.

Find a Lidless Wall asap its way better than that thing. 20% physical is a lot.

Get that 15% life roll off that ring. Get Vit if you aren't gonna get AoE dmg. Vit is thorns which is dmg. You can safely Bot with not a lot of HP.

Need to get a new chest with 15% bombard instead of armor.

Drop Consecration for Shield Glare - Divine Virdict.

Try dropping Law for Condemn - Vacuum as well.

Your weapon is fine. All it is missing is AoE instead of Elite damage anyway.

Hope you don't actually have 50/50 in movespeed with having 12% on your boots.

Obviously getting a new hellfire is probably gonna be one of the best upgrades at the moment. Getting one with 20% Phys, Str, CDR or AoE or Vit + good passive + ancient is massive increase.

For settings I hope you have mob count at like 10-15 and aoe of 30-40. Ignore minions, attack elite in clusters on. Wait for Convention on. Iron Skin use at 0% so it only uses for CoE. Kill any mob pack worth more than 6%. Basically what I used when I was sader botting anything till ~81s then I swapped some stuff but thats not important.
 
what do you think the best partner is for a lon sader in 2's for progressing grifts with autofollow?
 
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