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If you buy gold you should bot instead.

Should you bot instead of buying gold?

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Dameize

Dameize

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So I thought I should make this thread for anyone who may or may not be looking at purchasing hb or gb. As some people would probably buy gold but refuse to bot what is your opinion on this?. Do you think its as safe to bot as it is to buy gold?. Personally id rather spend the 25euro on gb then get 10k gold for the same price as I can farm that in a day or two anyway.

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I'd rather they bought gold, then I may be able to sell some of mine again :D
 
yeah if people weren't so lazy and botted their gold instead id be out of business. No ty.
 
I don't believe selfishness leads to anything, Free bots for everyone!
 
not sure why people bought gold, but if they have time and effort, they would have bot the gold instead.

i guess those people buying gold is either lazy as* or dumb as*... but i need them so i can sell my gold, so, THANKS FOR BUYING! PLEASE COME AGAIN NEXT TIME ^_^
 
heres the thing, gold buyers, hardly ever get banned, its the gold sellers that do. so unless you know a bunch of kids that will work for minimum wadge or less (hopefully less, wayy less) its better to get bots to do it, and to do it in mass, thats the only way to make money at it. most gold buyers are people who want to take the easy way out, instead of buying a bot, setting everything up, then going in and leveling a toon, or mining, or whatever. buying it is the easy way out. its easy to do, and its available. the same thing if i told you, i could sell you a couple of machines that will build cars for you on an assembly line? all you really wanna do is drive, so instead of investing more time/money you buy a car and go on your marry little way.
i guess what im saying is, that no you really shouldn't, because if everyone did, then there would be no gold market, and for some people, its not worth the time/money to run bot/accounts.
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GB will go a lot longer then buying gold. Normal GB is 30 days you can bot for those 30 days get more gold from farming then you would have buying.
 
I was aiming at people like me whose bot account is their main account. I havnt sold gold in a LONG time. I bot my main account and raid etc with it the bot keeps me funded and for me thats way cheaper at like $100usd for gb life time that willl last me as long as i want and i can farm like easily the $100 worth of gold (thats bout 20k) i can get 20k in a week or two with my bot and the chances of getting banned are low. Im starting again now to build my self up bots for proffit but this wont work for another couple of months im basically using the plan i posted in a previous thread. I may make a guide on it in the future.
 
Dameize said:
I was aiming at people like me whose bot account is their main account. I havnt sold gold in a LONG time. I bot my main account and raid etc with it the bot keeps me funded and for me thats way cheaper at like $100usd for gb life time that willl last me as long as i want and i can farm like easily the $100 worth of gold (thats bout 20k) i can get 20k in a week or two with my bot and the chances of getting banned are low. Im starting again now to build my self up bots for proffit but this wont work for another couple of months im basically using the plan i posted in a previous thread. I may make a guide on it in the future.
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If you want to compare things economically, you need to take RISK into account. People ussually forget about it, or overlook it, until too late. When does gold price go up ? Only when a banwave already came, and hundred of thousands of accounts banned. Before that, people never consider that they need to charge a higher price to cover their risk.

I'm very surprised to hear that you raid and bot on a same account. Trust me, my friend, you will never know when the Lady Luck leave your side. Imagine a day that you wake up only to find out, that your hard-earned 4 year-olds account are banned, just because it got caught last night trying to farm a tiny 2K gold/day for you. Does it worth it ? I believe many people will say No.

Compare buying gold and setting up a bot, in my opinion, is like comparing between buying a car and investing the same money into a new dot com business. The first choice, you get the pleasure now, and certainly. The other choice, you may end up with a better car, or go bankruptcy. Because you will never know for sure that your company will become a new Apple, or Google, or end up dead as millions dead website out there. You will never know, my friend.
 
People stil get banned for buying gold though and I thought banwaves were usually due to warden etc
 
Dameize said:
People stil get banned for buying gold though and I thought banwaves were usually due to warden etc
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No, you're wrong, Blizzard stop banning gold buyers long time ago, it's now become a fact. The reason behind is because Blizzard get tired with all the complaints for people got banned by mistake from that action. Tell me what happen when someone hates you send 10K gold to your mailbox, or a person give away his gold to hundred of people, will Blizzard ban you and all of these gold receivers ? No, never. Reality speaking, Blizzard don't have enough evidences to ban someone just because he receives a large amount of gold. By accident ? by give-away ? bad intention ? These are too many reasons they can use against Blizzard. Moreover, the loss-n-loss mentality (lose money to buy gold and lose account after that) of these banned gold buyers will usually lead them to flood the Customer Service forums with angry complaints. One more note, gold buyers are usually rich customers. Do Blizzard want to upset their rich customers ? No way. So they take the safer approach.

What happen to a banned gold seller ? He will just shut his mouth up, because anyway, he gains something, and because he feels guilty. Moreover, it's more difficult to explain why he give a large amount of gold to others. He will just buy a new set of CDKeys and try again. Who benefits ? Blizzard.
 
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No, you're wrong, Blizzard stop banning gold buyers long time ago, it's now become a fact. The reason behind is because Blizzard get tired with all the complaints for people got banned by mistake from that action. Tell me what happen when someone hates you send 10K gold to your mailbox, or a person give away his gold to hundred of people, will Blizzard ban you and all of these gold receivers ? No, never. Reality speaking, Blizzard don't have enough evidences to ban someone just because he receives a large amount of gold. By accident ? by give-away ? bad intention ? These are too many reasons they can use against Blizzard. Moreover, the loss-n-loss mentality (lose money to buy gold and lose account after that) of these banned gold buyers will usually lead them to flood the Customer Service forums with angry complaints. One more note, gold buyers are usually rich customers. Do Blizzard want to upset their rich customers ? No way. So they take the safer approach.

What happen to a banned gold seller ? He will just shut his mouth up, because anyway, he gains something, and because he feels guilty. Moreover, it's more difficult to explain why he give a large amount of gold to others. He will just buy a new set of CDKeys and try again. Who benefits ? Blizzard.
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Yeah but like if im only botting a few k a day and it doesnt look botlike and i play normally the rest of the time and actively chat etc then what would you say the ban chances are? personally id say close to 0
 
Dameize said:
Yeah but like if im only botting a few k a day and it doesnt look botlike and i play normally the rest of the time and actively chat etc then what would you say the ban chances are? personally id say close to 0
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That's what I also want to talk more about. Let see it in Economics eyes:

Let's say the chance of being banned is 0.1% per hour botting. The longer you bot, the higher your risk. The same thing happen to your benefit from botting. Let's say you gain 0.1K gold per hour botting. The less time per day you bot, the longer time you need to break-even with your setting up cost. You think that you can reduce the risk when botting less, but sorry, no, you're wrong. The risk is still the same as 1% chance of being banned for every 1K you gain. You bot less to reduce the risk, then you will gain less per day to cover the cost of setting up, and have to take longer time before you break-even. Statistically speaking, you haven't change anything. Ask people around here why some of them bot 24/7 ? Many of them are afraid to be banned that they decide to take higher risk to break-even sooner, why others choose to bot 4-8 hours per day think that the lower risks may balance out the longer time to break-even. I'm really not sure which approach is better in my eyes.

I still haven't take into account the time you need to invest to understand and learn how to bot and transfer gold to your main PROPERLY. It's quite a suffer for many people. So I will not be surprised when many still choosing to buy gold. Just pay the money and let Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" balance things out. If botting is indeed easy, just let many people jump in and become botters themselves, the price will soon becomes shit, then buy. Free-market ftw !!!
 
dd4k said:
That's what I also want to talk more about. Let see it in Economics eyes:

Let's say the chance of being banned is 0.1% per hour botting. The longer you bot, the higher your risk. The same thing happen to your benefit from botting. Let's say you gain 0.1K gold per hour botting. The less time per day you bot, the longer time you need to break-even with your setting up cost. You think that you can reduce the risk when botting less, but sorry, no, you're wrong. The risk is still the same as 1% chance of being banned for every 1K you gain. You bot less to reduce the risk, then you will gain less per day to cover the cost of setting up, and have to take longer time before you break-even. Statistically speaking, you haven't change anything. Ask people around here why some of them bot 24/7 ? Many of them are afraid to be banned that they decide to take higher risk to break-even sooner, why others choose to bot 4-8 hours per day think that the lower risks may balance out the longer time to break-even. I'm really not sure which approach is better in my eyes.

I still haven't take into account the time you need to invest to understand and learn how to bot and transfer gold to your main PROPERLY. It's quite a suffer for many people. So I will not be surprised when many still choosing to buy gold. Just pay the money and let Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" balance things out. If botting is indeed easy, just let many people jump in and become botters themselves, the price will soon becomes shit, then buy. Free-market ftw !!!
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I understand what you mean about people buying gold to save the risk but overall I would say the risk isnt overly high especially if your active in the WoW community etc and bot decent profiles.
 
Dameize said:
I understand what you mean about people buying gold to save the risk but overall I would say the risk isnt overly high especially if your active in the WoW community etc and bot decent profiles.
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Just let Blizzard do some kind of trick with warden that bypasses tripwire. (this has happened already before so blizzard is able to do this)
And with a bit of luck from Blizzards side your bot is just running at this time an Poooof byebye account.
 
We dont want these people all botting or there would not be anyone to sell all our bot earned gold to!!!
 
Rooster71 said:
We dont want these people all botting or there would not be anyone to sell all our bot earned gold to!!!
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"The world as it is" and "the world as we want it to be" is usually very different. Tell me what can you do to stop people from jumping in and become botter themselves? Nothing. Anyone, Chinese or American can buy a bot, then let it run by itself. So bear with it.

There was a time I had nothing to do, I got bored, so I decided to used Google translator to explore what Chinese gold farmers doing these days. And I found what ? Chinese now mostly use bot, many kinds of bot. Honorbuddy appears to be one of them also. Maybe that's why the gold price is shit right now.
 
Your calculation is wrong.
Because you can't bot just with the 25?.

You need WoW+Addons+a 2nd PC, if you want to bot without getting your main banned.
And for this amount of ?, you can easily buy like 100k gold.
 
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